We finally get off the stage, and Kevin-we’re still all sweaty, just got off the stage-was like, “Guys, I don’t think Max is coming back.” And we’re like, “What are you talking about?” He’s just like, “Go on Twitter, and check this AltPress link.” AltPress has this post that Max Green has left Escape The Fate, and he’s not coming back, and he’s leaving us because of musical differences. So the suitcase gets sent out that afternoon and we hit the stage that night. He wants his clothes.” Apparently, he was already out of state. If you have a new suitcase, why don’t you just fly out with your new suitcase, and leave the old one on the side of the road? We had people who worked with the band that advised us not to send him the suitcase, and I ultimately decided, “Hey, just send him the suitcase. His story was: He had a new suitcase, and the suitcase he put on the bus was old and crappy, and he wanted us to send his suitcase back. It turned into him wanting his suitcase back. When can we expect you back?” I never questioned him. I texted him, “Hey, man, we just got off the stage. MABBITT: I never accused him of anything. It’s always hard to question someone about something like that, because they’re gonna get very defensive. So, we obviously questioned him about that.
Obviously, everybody’s main concern was drugs, because he had a history with that, and it’s fair for the band to be worried. So, now we’re back to asking about a flight, a date and when he’s gonna be coming back. So, we immediately take the post down, like, five minutes after we posted it, and then that week goes by. Wish him the best.” He wanted us to immediately take it down, which was already questionable. He’s not gonna be able to be on the road for a bit. Just let us know when you’re gonna be back out on the road.” About a week goes by, and we’re still like, “Is there a flight booked yet? Is there a date that you’re coming back out yet? What’s going on here?” We tried to make a post on our Facebook to let everyone know, “Hey, Max is dealing with some personal family stuff. That’s when Max lets everybody know he’s not gonna be able to make it out for a while, because he had some personal family issues to deal with. He throws his suitcase of clothes on the bus. So they meet up, they’re helping load the trailer, and Kevin throws his suitcase in with all his clothes, TJ throws in his suitcase and so does Max. MABBITT: A week before the tour, we get told by Max that he has some family problems going on, and we’re like, “Okay.” He’s like, “I don’t think I’m gonna be able to make it on the first couple days of the tour.” Apparently, he was gonna attempt to make it out to the tour, because the tour bus went to our storage facility in Los Angeles and picked up all the band’s equipment. Everything was just how we wanted it to be. Whether Ronnie and Falling In Reverse played after or before us or whatever, the tour was because the bands were playing together, and it was great. ORTIZ: We had literally just came off one of the best tours ever with the Bury The Hatchet Tour. It was like, “Why is this all happening on this tour? Why is karma biting us in the ass so much right now? What did we do?”
There were some positive parts, but for the most part, it was really just trying to get by, man.ĬRAIG MABBITT: There are so many little things that happened, too. So, it was a rough tour to say the least. So we weren’t too thrilled about the Pop Evil tour and all this stuff going down and, of course, the big one, right at the beginning of the tour-the reason why you’re calling us-Max. We’ve reached out and seen what kind of fans might be out there we’ve seen if anyone from that radio-rock side can have an appreciation for us-and they don’t always. They make their home at rock radio, and we grew up at AP and Warped Tour. I like the Pop Evil guys and everything-they’re nice guys, they do their thing-but they’re a completely different band than us. ROBERT ORTIZ: It was hard to have a strong tour that we were excited about, because, quite frankly, we weren’t excited about the tour. To start off, how did the Pop Evil tour go over?
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